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AMD Phoenix Desktop APUs For AM5 Might Utilize Phoenix 2 Dies With Zen 4 & Zen 4C Cores

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AMD Phoenix Desktop APUs For AM5 Might Utilize Phoenix 2 Dies With Zen 4 & Zen 4C Cores 1

AMD's upcoming Ryzen 7000 "Phoenix" APUs for the AM5 platform might be utilizing the Zen 4 and Zen 4C hybrid architecture configuration.

AMD Phoenix 2 Reportedly Coming To AM5 Socket WIth Upcoming Ryzen 7000 AM5 APU Family

We recently reported that AMD's board partners had started rolling out the latest AGESA 1.0.8.0 BIOS firmware to enable preliminary support for upcoming processors. ASUS confirmed that the processors were none other than the next-generation APUs and the first for the AM5 platforms, codenamed Phoenix.

Now, additional information has been revealed by Computerbase's forum member, Crash Test, has dug out that that the AM5 APUs do not feature the same CPU ID as the original Phoenix APUs but have a CPU ID that is meant for the Phoenix Refresh chips "00A70F52". The forum member also reports that the Phoenix 2 APUs have the "00A70F80" which is different than the one used by the original Phoenix APUs "00A70F41".

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This would suggest that AMD could be bringing its hybrid Phoenix core configuration over to the desktop AM5 platforms instead of the original design that features just one architecture IP. Hybrid Phoenix APUs are composed of Zen 4 and Zen 4C cores which offer a more efficient experience in the same power/performance envelope. So far, these chips have only been seen in the mainstream notebook segment so if they are indeed coming to the desktop AM5 platform under the new Ryzen 7000 family, then it would be rather interesting.

As for what AMD Ryzen 7000 "Phoenix" APUs would bring to the table, we can expect up to 8 Zen 4 CPU cores and up to 12 RDNA 3 compute units in a monolithic design with Ryzen AI capabilities. It'll come with TDPs of 65W which has been the standard for Ryzen APUs & we can hope for some nice prices as the budget AM5 segment can definitely benefit from these chips.

AMD APU Forecasted Roadmap 2016-2023

APU SegmentFamily CodenameFamily BrandingProcess NodeCPU ArchitectureGPU ArchitectureMax Cores / ThreadsTDPLaunch Year
Desktop (AM5)PhoenixRyzen 7000G4nmZen 4Navi (RDNA 3)8/1635-65W2023?
Desktop (AM5)RembrandtRyzen 7000G6nmZen 3+Navi (RDNA 2)8/1635-65WCancelled
Desktop (AM4)CezanneRyzen 5000G7nmZen 3Vega (4th Gen)8/1635-65W2021
Desktop (AM4)RenoirRyzen 4000G7nmZen 2(Vega 3rd Gen)8/1635-65W2020
Desktop (AM4)PicassoRyzen 3000G12nmZen+Vega (2nd Gen)4/835-65W2019
Desktop (AM4)Raven RidgeRyzen 2000G14nmZenVega (1st Gen)4/835-65W2018
Desktop (AM4)Bristol RidgeA10-900028nmExcacvator+GCN 3.02/435-65W2016
Written by Hassan Mujtaba

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